Yeah, I’d have been showing up as anonymous animals when I checked a couple times, on a guest computer not logged into Google.
Fuck, well I’ll see what I can do to change that. I don’t want to compromise people’s ability to access them privately.
Also, I don’t think anyone is able to make comments? They are read only.
Would an incognito tab/window/whatever work?
here’s google’s info on it:
https://support.google.com/docs/answer/2494888?hl=en
it looks like if you weren’t induvidually invited you’ll remain anonymous
Yep, that keeps you out of your Google account, at least in my experience. 
@Glorgu, if you don’t want people commenting, then it shouldn’t be a problem! I was just saying I won’t be interacting with the sheet directly, though I might read it from time to time.
Ok. Woof.
Yesterday, I fully believed that either CGR or Flavin had to be a Knight. I clearly put way too much stock in my personal beliefs that their speech itself was giving them away. At that time, the nightmare for me was a scenario where Glorgu was lying, even though my instinct was that he was telling the truth, and that he would wriggle out of it by claiming Auntie Knuckles’ interference. Obviously, I was completely fucking wrong. So, I have what I wanted, implicit trust in Glorgu. What that’s worth, I’m not sure. Probably not multiple Battler lives. Sorry.
That said, I think my actions should look pretty suspicious. But I think the Knights intend to keep me around to help them out.
WHAt does that even MEAN
I think that the reason no one has tried to start a vote against me is that I’m not good at this game and my actions have directly aided them. Better to keep me and target someone who’s proven troublesome.
Okay, so I think we have roughly eighteen-ish hours left? I would really like us to avoid the limbo situation we nearly ended up in last time, so let me do what I think we should all be looking at doing and making a case. I’m not wedded to my argument, but let me establish it, walk y’all through it, and let you all adjudicate on it.
The only person I’ve seen floated by multiple others is erica, but I have my reasons for feeling she’s innocent. If you want to have that talk, I can give it, but I want to make a case that gives us the scope for action first.
Vote: muffinsyay.
Following on from my previous post, I pointed to muffinsyay as someone that I had pretty unreserved suspicions about due to their activity. One of my reasons for doing this, as I said, was to encourage folks to respond, justify, and advance their own theses. muffinsyay has done this. However…
His response is pretty deflective. As I outlined above, I don’t think erica is the right choice, but I don’t need to elaborate on why to outline why this is suspicious.
It’s suspicious because it very specifically continues to draw on the existing momentum of Day 2 and the bet as the logical basis of its argument. There’s a case there, sure, but we have spent the entire day, collectively, talking about how wrong we’ve all gotten it and how we need to change our approach. If the Battlers are going to come back from this position, this is the key to our success. If we continue on as we have, the Knights will keep running circles around us.
It seems clear that, from what we know, Glorgu’s gambit was a boon to the Knights. Battlers fought one another for a day instead of looking for new leads. What has emerged from it, from the Battler perspective, is that we now have Glorgu confirmed innocent* and erica in an ambiguous position. Surely it is in the Knights’ best interest to carry that momentum through and finish the job, leaving us with no leads?
Furthermore, muffinsyay’s prior votes have been following well-established trajectories. After both CodyDaviesTV and I started rounding through inactive players:
This was after Flavin and CGR had already done the same. As Flavin shortly pointed out:
Obviously, we know that this wasn’t coordinated. With that said, there are absolutely reasons why a Knight would jump onto two votes in order to either lend weight to a growing bandwagon** or, alternatively, get a ‘safe’ vote out there. It’s really quite odd to put a third person on an ‘inactive’ vote, especially at a moment when other users still hadn’t popped up yet.
While muffinsyay’s proposal of a Sister Gun gambit is odd from a Knight perspective, Sister Gun is a night-time role. While he might be new to Mafia, the ultimate result of muffinsyay’s proposal was Glorgu coming forward and initiating a gambit of their own. He can’t be blamed for that entirely, but I can’t get away from the fact that muffinsyay incited the defining event of Day 2 and then was scarce for most of it, allowing a discussion he started (which has killed two Battlers thus far) to rumble on without interruption except for a brief explanation. I understand that folks get busy, but there was absolutely a way to reinsert yourself into that gambit if you really wanted to prove your innocent directly. That he didn’t is very fishy to me.
(edited this in after post 590) I’ve focused on what muffinsyay has said, but my aforementioned points are also relevant to include. They have, in general, kept their head down and themselves to themselves, but, as the town roles get fewer and fewer, those who are shirking the spotlight are more likely to be against us than with us. If we’re not willing to talk, we’re playing right into the Knights’ hands.
For the above reasons, I make this case against muffinsyay and cast my vote accordingly. It’s messy, it’s not certain, and, frankly, it’s all coming from my gut. Yet, with Crowbar gone, making cases like these is the best way to reason out who the Knights are. I hope we can come to a consensus soon.
*This is mostly coming from the fact that there’s been no counter-claims to Glorgu. There are worlds in which they could still be a Knight, but I’d pray that the real Sister Gun would have come forward by now!
** ‘Bandwagon’ is a Mafia term that refers to a sudden surge of voting for one person or another. Usually follows a prolonged period of thread inactivity.
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Like I said in my above post, I think our best bet is to narrow our suspicions to 2 people, then we can vote one off and suggest the other have their action blocked. I think robowitch has some good ideas, so for now my two suspicious parties will be Clyde and muffinsyay.
Glorgu has to be sister gun.
I refuse to accept we live in a world where the real sister gun would see a fake claim, and just follow through with what they said to do. I refuse.
i am now awake! The third day will end at 8am EST Monday, giving you a full 24 hours to work out this conundrum. good luck to all!
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Well, the scenario in which Glorgu isn’t Sister Gun assumes they’re a Knight. The case goes something like this.
Glorgu and his Knight friends have him claim Sister Gun (potentially, or potentially not, after muffinsyay has prepared the groundwork, by coincidence or through shared planning). Sister Gun doesn’t take the bait and backs away from it. That night, Glorgu stays true to his word and has the Knights kill Flavin to ‘prove’ Glorgu’s innocence. Sister Gun, meanwhile, chooses to kill CodyDaviesTV instead to try and prove that Glorgu isn’t really Sister Gun.
There’s definite holes in it – like why wouldn’t Sister Gun just kill Glorgu? However, on the flip side, we have to ask why the Knights let Glorgu go instead of letting us have a confirmed townsperson. That’s also confusing me, frankly. If we come down to a final three scenario, they’re playing with fire by giving someone with ironclad credentials license to run around.
I do think Glorgu is Sister Gun, for what it’s worth. I’m just really scratching my head about this whole thing.
(P.S. I added a paragraph to my post above – I noted where I added it, but just letting you folks who’ve already read it know.)
Anime, did you hear about this one?
Tell me, are you trying to run?
Anime, are you tributing Flavin, hey baby
Are you having fun?
If you believe, Sister Gun is Glorgu (Gun is Glorgu)
If you believe, there’s nothing up his sleeve, then nothing is cool…
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Sidenote: So we know Cody had, as of day 2, information gained during the night, and the first vote they pushed, without tipping their hand, was Serbroseph, right?
Do we want to consider that at all? (Also possible they got a non-knight info, and were guessing, or not wanting to tip a hand too early etc.)
This is so shady and cool I almost believe it
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this does not fill me with confidence!!!
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You did it! You found the one way to make me more nervous in this situation.
I didn’t think it existed before you did it.
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There’s definitely a slight possibility that glorgu’s gambit was a ploy to flush out the real sister gun and they didn’t bite, but yeah it’s ultimately unlikely.
Sister Gun definitely acted last night, and Flavin died as Glorgu claimed. Like robowitch said, the level of mind games at play for it Glorgu not to be Sister Gun are honestly too high for us to rely on. I don’t think it’s worth voting out Glorgu at this point.
