Fire Emblem: Three Houses (formerly Persona Hogwarts edition)

I’m moving much slower on my second play through than on my first, only on chapter 8 so far, so I probably am not going to finish this one before Control comes out like I had planned sadly, but I’ll try!

I think I like the golden deer characters a little more than the Black Eagles. Raphael notwithstanding, they feel like much less of a bunch of memes and more grounded. I’m curious to see their perspective on the upcoming chapters.

Overall, I think I’m coming to the understanding that in a lot of aspects, Three Houses is really an ambitious first draft. A lot of the elements of the story and the systems are really raw. And I don’t say that as a bad thing! I really like this game, like a lot. But I really hope that this K-T team gets another shot at this franchise, because I want to see what they can do when they tighten the screws, really focus on building off of three houses foundation.

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I feel like GD feels more like a group of friends, while BE felt like a bunch of random weirdos united because Edelgard is a great leader. I could imagine everyone in GD going to McDonald’s and hanging out in a way I can’t really with most of BE.

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I got to the end of part 1 with the Black Eagles and my motivation to continue has really taken a nose dive. It seems my choices are a warmongering dictator or a probably evil dragon pope?

Yo what’s up I just started this game is there any discourse left???

Initial take: So far I think it is good!

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Yea that is your Choices. I finished the Church Route and it was ok. I am having more fun on the other route however but I haven’t finished it yet.

I’m still in the early going. There’s dozens of us (I think)!

I went with Edlegard and think the second half of the game does a better job explaining some motives. For how long I spent on part one, the choice felt very abrupt as did the reasons behind why sides were what they were.

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Hey so what’s the deal with most A rank supports being romantic or implying two characters are pairing off for the future? Do characters have actual canon endings or does the last A rank they unlock dictate things? I ask because I really liked Bernadetta and Linhardt’s support chain but since then she has hit A rank with a bunch of other characters and I am gonna be bummed if that means she and Linhardt won’t be “alone together” post-game.

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From my experience it seems random. I have heard in some play through Dorothea was paired with Manuela while in mine she was with Petra

There’s a “closest ally” menu for each character, your endings will be determined by those

DLC Speculation

So is the DLC going to be about the war against Those Who Slither in the Dark or whatever they’re named? I was expecting one more chapter then it abruptly ends without resolving that. I kept laughing in the epilogue whenever they mentioned the long and hard war against them. And what the hell is the deal with the Death Knight? I know there will be new characters for dlc so I’m assuming he’ll be one.

Did you just find this fan art like I just found it? Cause it’s my favorite. The fan art for this game is incredible

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I’ve not played through all of the routes yet but at least one of them definitely deals with that, the church route specifically.

No because thats dealt with in every other route of the game, in the church route its even Hubert that gives Byleth the intel to locate them. The way I see it not being included on Edelgards route is because in my mind, the developers think the Church is good and Edelgard is bad, and they didn’t want that route to conclude with Edelgard and Byleth doing something good by getting rid of those who slither

I think there will be a path where you can recruit all the houses/not cause them to fight (Kinda like FE Fates: Revelations) and then you do battle against Those who slither in the dark

Spoilers on several routes below

Summary

It is DEFINITELY not my impression that the writers think the Church is good and Edelgard is bad. Rhea is the classic Evil Pope for all of act 1 and even goes crazy (and turns the whole church crazy along with her) in the Church route, which makes no sense if the writers are trying to present her as the wronged party here. Rhea and Edelgard are both extremely gray characters. With the issue of Edelgard’s route being short and unsatisfying re: Those who Slither, I imagine it’s a mix of things: it is traditional for an FE the final fight to be against The Dragon (and from Edelgard’s perspective, it’s foolish to antagonize Those Who Slither before defeating Rhea, as she would be fighting on both fronts), and also possibly straight running out of time. There are a lot of reused maps, cutscenes, etc., that speak to a lack of time, and the BE route is already actually two routes. Also, each route is (probably intentionally) incomplete in terms of the Big Picture, and since the Church and GD routes focus on Those Who Slither, they probably just cut it from BE for scope.

I think it’s a shame, because Edelgard’s route definitely could have been tinkered with to provide better closure than a “she killed the bad guys later!” ending narration, but I really doubt that it’s because of the game’s preference for Rhea over Edelgard. If anything, the game seems to heavily champion Edelgard compared to what she objectively does (start a bloody conquest war) by giving her somewhat unrealistically noble motives/ending. (Like, most revolutionary dictators don’t overthrow the corrupt system via bloody war and then say My Work Is Done and peace out, you know?).

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Something that a lot of y’all have referenced with your posts and something that I think is so wonderful about this game is the fact that no one playthrough/route is the “objective” story to this world. Every house’s story is set in the same exact world and given the same starting conditions, but they branch out in so many different & meaningful ways. I’m on a second playthrough after my first, and even in the first couple months there are some fairly different characterizations of events that each house experiences. Of COURSE people closely allied with the Empire are going to have a different understanding of events/social network than people allied with the Holy Kingdom, and that’s reflected so well in the way storytelling works in Three Houses. From what I understand there’s no route that has a dump of “okay here’s everything that’s happening and why”, an understanding of the world can only come together with experiencing every possible route. Every player will walk away from a different stance on every major character based on what houses they’ve played, but none of those views are invalid because of how everything is structured. Maybe it’s a tactic to inflate how much people have to play this game, but it’s something I really appreciate from a storytelling perspective.

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just got to the ending of Black Eagles and i’m howling laughing at Edel “The Ends Justify The Means” Gard suddenly yelling about how we fight for our friends just like a real Naruto.
i was very surprised by the pairings in my ending (Hubart/Bernadetta, Dorothea/Petra and Lindhart/Annette were the only ones i got) but Hubernie was surprisingly sweet and the others were good too.

well time to go see how claude’s doing and murder all my good friends

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I am fairly certain I read that the developers have stated the DLC will not be anything like Revelations and will focus on side stories, new (?) characters, and parts of the lore already established or mentioned in the game. It is possible that we will encounter what you mention in the spoiler tag but my understanding at this time is that Three Houses is committed to denying players an ending in which everyone is happy.

Edit: here is the interview I was thinking of:

Yokota : These will be spin-offs that won’t affect the main story or the post-game either. We’re also thinking about introducing some new characters. We’re talking something fairly big here, so I think fans might have to wait a while. Also, aside from the expansion pass there will be a free update post-launch to add a new ‘Lunatic’ difficulty. Again, there might be a bit of a wait for this, but I think skilled players can definitely look forward to it.

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End spoilers and stuff Rhea is obviously bad, but the way I see it is that by allowing the player character to become the head of the church, the developers basically think the church itself is good because it “maintains peace” (regardless of the fact that obviously lots of people have suffered under that peace). You’re probably right about it being a running out of time thing though, there’s so much stuff in the game lol