I think it’s a discussion that would be far more interesting and poignant if it hadn’t felt incredibly rushed and fueled by a shallow observation. Dany feeling all sullen that people are flocking to Jon after the battle and not her when these are people he’s known for years and are some of his best friends. It’s not people flocking to a natural leader, it’s people talking to someone they personally know and are friends with. The wildlings left for home minutes later, they didn’t stick around out of loyalty.
It’s also undercut by the fact that all of their supposed concerns about Dany have existed since forever. These are not revelations about her temperament or style of ruling, they’ve known that shit for a long time now. The idea that hanging out with Jon Snow for a long weekend suddenly changed their allegiances entirely is just bizarre.
Thank you for your pedantry re: decimation. I’m a stickler for that one.
I also agree with the OP’s sentiment though. Episode 3 made it seem like there were about 100 people left in total. To find out it was only half seemed… incongruous with the previous episode’s portrayal.
So after episode 3 I’ve more or less given up, I had no interest in watching the 4th ep. However I came home yesterday and my girlfriend was just starting it.
Some good moments at the feast, and towards the end with Tyrion and Varys that allowed the characters interact with each other. Other than that I have nothing good to say about the episode.
Eh, to a certain extent I’m willing to overlook the incredible military stupidity of everyone involved because that’s been how the show and the book have handled these things since day one. Stannis, supposed brilliant tactician that he is, sails his entire fleet into a bay with only one narrow means of escape.
I have this friend, my Last Jedi friend, who seems to be extremely disappointed with the way in which this season of GoT is going. I’m hoping this will mean that he’ll stop texting me about how much he hates TLJ, how wrong I am to like it and what he would do to fix it. Just means he won’t stop with GoT hate from now on.
Yeah, that can’t be good. I mean I really am hugely disappointed in the drop in quality but… At the end of the day there’s seasons 1-4 that were perfect for me and I can always re-read the books, I’m ok with not enjoying things
I’ll echo that I’m disappointed but content. The criticisms are true and valid, and certain things have really crawled under my skin, like the shitty Sansa “little bird” line; just says a lot about the showrunners.
I think season 8 could’ve had more time to flesh things out and not end up feeling so rushed, but I’m kind of just riding it out remembering when the show was at its height (and honestly I’ve liked most seasons before this) and seeing where my remaining favourite characters like Arya, Brienne, Hound and Tyrion end up.
I mostly just want to see Arya kick ass and retire to the north, squabbling over the throne was never really the main draw for me; neither were Jon or Daenerys and they’re now all the way in the spotlight, being as bumbling as they ever were.
It’s both funny and maddening to watch people relentlessly nitpick things to death because they don’t like them while they gloss over similar massive gaps of logic for stories they prefer. Like I said in the Star Wars thread, the people whining endlessly about TLJ have to willfully ignore how profoundly stupid the OT is. I’ve seen people upset about Dany missing the Iron Fleet not say a peep when the Harry Potter people just refuse to use time turners or Voldemort didn’t make a grain of sand a horcrux. Gandalf uses magic of unexplained powers basically at random and never when it would be actually useful. The machines in the Matrix create an incredibly complicated series of machinery and endlessly repeating cycle instead of investing in a giant air filter or something. Despite having a non-interventionist policy on paper, Star Fleet is injecting themselves into things constantly.
People praise the early seasons for subverting expectations by killing off major characters. What if they further subvert expectations and no one else important dies? Eh? I hope someone floated this in the writers room.
This just goes to prove that women can’t be trusted to answer that 3 AM call to nuke Russia. Am I right, fellas? Let’s hear it. Women be crazy and shopping, right?