In your personal Top 10 Games of All Time list, what's the outlier?


#122

Brave Fencer Musashi is a game I haven’t thought about in a long time - thanks for bringing it up! I probably wouldn’t put it in my Top 10, but I did really enjoy it.

Also, a series I totally forgot about and was completely in love with:

Goemon the Mystical Ninja. I loved both the SNES and the N64 games. Would really like to return to those at some point.

By the by, did anyone here ever play Pocky & Rocky? I was terrible at those games, but I really loved them, especially their aesthetic. Always wanted a Pocky & Rocky RPG.


#123

I was thinking of Brave Fencer Mushashi just yesterday when I was remembering when I actually had time and interest to play every new Square RPG that came out.

My uncle randomly got me Pocky & Rocky from a flea market and I loved the hell out of it. Never quite realized I was playing a SHMUP until years later. I remember seeing the previews for the sequel in EGM and thinking it was dope as hell that it had a bunch of new characters. Never did play that sequel. Wonder if it was good.


#124

Hell yeah, Pocky and Rocky two was my JAM as a kid.


#125

It was. I played the hell out of that one too!


#126

i don’t have a whole top 10 list thought out but my outlier is probably ico. i know it’s generally well-regarded, but it always seems to get overshadowed (sorry for the pun) by shadow of the colossus. i like sotc as much as the next person, but ico is the one that really carved out a place in my heart.


#127
  • The Last of Us: Multiplayer
  • Steamworld Dig
  • Left 4 Dead
  • Jak and Daxter
  • Team Fortress 2
  • Call of Duty: Modern Warfare
  • The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim
  • The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion
  • Titanfall 2
  • Spelunky
  • Minecraft

My list, which is in no particular order, is really all over the place but I think the biggest outlier is The Last of Us’s multiplayer mode. I genuinely believe it is the best multiplayer mode in a game not focused on multiplayer, period. I also think it is the most underated multiplayer mode in all of gaming. The sense of dread that game mode carries is so incredibly well done, and I think it’s why I love the “final circle” moments of battle royale games now.

Steamworld Dig, Spelunky, Jak and Daxter, and Minecraft all have platforming and collectathon ties. Titanfall 2, Call of Duty, Team Fortress 2, and Left 4 Dead are all skill heavy shooters. The Elder Scrolls are pretty obviously connected. TLoU is very different but combines the intense death penalties found in a few of the games and the tight mechanics of the others.

EDIT: OMG I forgot to put Spelunky on the list!


#128

My list is pretty small and not in order:

  • Rock Band 3

  • Demon’s Souls

  • Inside

  • Killzone 2/3

  • The Last of Us

  • Wolfenstein: The New Order

  • Night in the Woods

  • Another World
    Honorable Mention: Dead Space 2 (got stuck at one point and didn’t finish, but I still love it).

The outlier is Killzone, as on the surface it doesn’t seem that different from any other military shooter from the seventh generation. But I love it because 3 is one of the few multiplayer games I’ve ever loved and was good at, and 2’s campaign is really well paced for what the game is trying to convey. It’s exhausting but never tiring, due to well made set peaces sprinkled throughout it. It’s also one of the few games that makes its gray color scheme appealing. Those games don’t really do anything new, and the story is iffy, but it’s still well-crafted in its own right.


#129

As a side note, I still think about the Undertale vs. Ocarina of Time uproar that happened at GameFaqs. It really struck me how so many people’s favorite games were mostly N64 games and older. I know this type of stuff doesn’t really matter, but I really feel like I’m “inexperienced” with games. At least in the eyes of GameFaqs people.


#130

I don’t know what the uproar was about but I would say Undertale’s history is more with games like Earthbound, Yume Nikki, and Cave Story rather than something like OoT. That context probably affects your experience with the game but imo it doesn’t give you a better understanding or anything. I wouldn’t worry about “experience” that historical context is far from the only valuable thing, in fact, I think it’s generally overrated.


#131

From what I remember it, there was a poll on GameFaqs about the greatest game of all time. The poll ended up being between Undertale and Oot. Undertale won, which upset a lot of people.


#132

Honestly just seeing how upset people got that OOT didn’t win yet another Greatest Game award, that was wonderful


#133

Been putting a lot of thought into my top 10, it’s ordered, but that honestly just depends on the day.

1 The Witness
2 Mass Effect 3 (also the series)
3 Mirror’s Edge
4 Portal (series)
5 XCOM (Firaxis & Apocalypse)
6 Transistor
7 Dune (1992, Cryo Interactive)
8 Cities: Skylines
9 Kerbal Space Program
10 Thea: The Awakening

Honorable mention:
Stronghold (1993 SSI game)
Europa Universalis IV
Final Fantasy VIII
ES3: Morrowind

The outlier is pretty clearly the 1992 Dune adventure game from Cryo Interactive (and published by Virgin Games, of all things). The weirdest game is definitely Thea: The Awakening, a 4x game where you don’t do any expansion, you only get one town, and has the strangest card battle resolution minigame ive ever played and I love it.


#134

Ever played Einhander? It’s also a product of that late-90’s weirdo Square era. Great game with an amazing vibe.


#135

In no particular order, this week they are:

Suikoden 2
Championship Manager Italia '95
Vandal Hearts (PS1)
Sensible Soccer
Bard’s Tale 2
Split Second
Wipeout 2097
Oblivion
Chrono Trigger
Day of Defeat

I don’t really know what the outlier is. I was thinking Split Second, but then I have another racing game in there as well. I doubt Day of Defeat or Vandal Hearts would be on many people’s lists but one is an RPG which I have plenty of in there anyway.

Um, pass!


#136

My top 10, at this time, and in no particular order:

Undertale
Link’s Awakening
Kentucky Route Zero
Night in the Woods
Pokemon Silver
Shadow of the Colossus
Monument Valley
Celeste
Breath of the Wild
World of Goo

I think the outlier might be World of Goo for not having an embodied player avatar, and for being more of a puzzle game than an adventure game. Although it still has a strong story, I think! Apparently I connect more with games when I’m some kind of person rather than a disembodied hand or eye.

Also, I notice I tend to like Sad Games (or at least melancholy ones). By that measure Pokemon is the outlier since it’s typically cheery and optimistic.


#137

In no particular order

  • The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild
  • Spyro the Dragon
  • SSX Tricky
  • Soul Calibur II
  • Star Wars Rogue Squadron III: Rebel Strike
  • Pokemon Black/White
  • Custom Robo
  • Batman: Arkham Asylum
  • Animal Crossing: New Leaf
  • Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door

The outlier on this list for me in particular is SSX Tricky. Since the only other sports games i really care for are Mario ones and the NBA Street series (V3 almost made it in the top 10)

But on other people’s lists i think Custom Robo is the biggest outlier. It’s probably one of the more obscure Nintendo franchises. I really wish it would come back but I doubt it ever will. But building your mechs and fighting in those arenas was super fun. The story was also weird and charming for the time.

Honorable mentions (because i’m bummed i had to leave them off):

  • NBA Street V3
  • Super Monkey Ball 2
  • Tetris DS
  • Night in the Woods
  • Mark of the Ninja

#138

Sacrifice. A weird 3rd person real-time strategy game by Shiny Entertainment. It’s a game in which you play a mage in service of a small, fickle deity. You summon armies of unusually athletic green people and sentient contraptions of blades and flesh to destroy altars of other small fickle deities and eviscerate souls of enemy mages.

However, the game has this colorful, almost cheerful, surreal aesthetic that does not allow it to get too brooding or edgy, even if your character is this jaded burnout mage, that monologues to himself constantly. (He is like the only gray model in the whole game I almost think it’s intentional.)

I love this game dearly, but I don’t think it’s going to appear on many top 10 lists. For one It’s obscure and old. And you never quite feel like you are in control in combat. 3rd person perspective, while novel, really isn’t suited to tactical command. But yeah, I think It’s great and anybody who’s interested should at least try it. It’s even on GOG.

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#139

Probably Chrono Cross, because people had expectations that weren’t met, so they were disappointed despite playing a gorgeous watercolor daydream with tons of varied locales, compelling (albeit convoluted) multi-dimensional plot, and a refreshing take on turn based combat that allowed you to approach EVERY encounter fully equipped.

The plot seems completely unrelated at first, but when the little bits of Trigger seap in things go really off the rails.

Honestly, I get why it’s not everybody’s ideal Chrono Trigger sequel, and I agree that the story needed a couple extra drafts to smooth the edges (I’m lookin at you, end game info dump in optional dialogue that tells the character motivation of the primary villain) and that there is little need to have so many characters if they are so one note. But it made a huge impact on me and was the first game to get me online to read all about it (chronocompendium.com)

Watch these Satchbag video about Chrono Cross:
Chrono Trigger to Chrono Cross: The Inventive Carpenter


Chrono Cross was a Perfect Sequel:

#140

My top ten feels a little like bearing my 2K10 heart:

  1. Dragon’s Dogma
  2. Final Fantasy X
  3. The Sims 3
  4. LA Noire
  5. Persona 4
  6. Elite Beat Agents
  7. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
  8. Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Father
  9. Transistor
  10. Dragon Age: Origins

After perusing the responses, there are a handful of games on my list that don’t seem to make it to anyone else’s: The Sims series, L.A. Noire, Gabriel Knight, but of those three L.A. Noire is my favorite game that I really, actually expect no one else to like because it’s such a garbage game. I love it because I love detective stories, I love 20th century period pieces, and I love games that attempt non-violent gameplay and this one was ambitious on all counts. It fell right on its face and was at times incredibly frustrating to play, but I still appreciated that the core mechanic was essentially spotting others’ lies. That game would’ve been better if they’d done away with more of the common Rockstar elements, i.e., the bad gunplay, though I completely understand needing to change up the pace.

Honestly, L.A. Noire is the only sequel I wanna see out of Rockstar. I don’t expect it, but damn.


#141

In order of appearance:

  1. Sid Meier’s Pirates! (1987)
  2. Wing Commander
  3. Sim City 2000
  4. The Sims
  5. Morrowind
  6. Mass Effect
  7. EVE Online (circa 2008-2010)
  8. Red Dead Redemption
  9. Skyrim
  10. Journey

My outlier could be Pirates!, if for no other reason than 1987 was too long ago for some. Pirates! might be responsible for me joining the Navy a decade later. It might be responsible for me being able to name more islands in the Caribbean than states in the U.S. Might be why I sleep better on a rocking boat than anywhere else in the world.