Is John Montagu, 4th Earl of Sandwich, a sandwich?


John Montagu, 4th Earl of Sandwich, was a politician and aristocrat, bearer of the title “Earl of Sandwich”, and eponymous inventor of the sandwich. However, he is not a concoction of meat, vegetables, or cheese placed between two slices of bread. So is he a sandwich?


only when holding two pieces of bread


I would call him more of a burrito (a flesh and skin burrito), but those are also sandwiches, so yes.


The Earl of Sandwich is undeniably a Sandwich.


he was clearly a Montagu. it’s a fine distinction but I’ve been playing a lot of Crusader Kings 2 so it is a distinction which is very much top of mind at the moment.


I can’t believe we both went for the same dang joke! Is this it? Is this the last possible sandwich joke?


I tend to go by the line of thinking that if someone offers me a sandwich and then gives me a hot dog, I’d be kind of put off. So you can conclude that a hot dog isn’t a sandwich. In the same vein, if someone offers me a sandwich and then gives me John Montagu, 4th Earl of Sandwich, I would be delighted. John Montagu, 4th Earl of Sandwich, therefore, is a sandwich.


We’ve reached peak sandwich. It’s all downhill from here.


You asked the question I never thought to—and in doing so, I hope, have finally closed the terrible comedy loop born from youthful arrogance at the forum’s point of creation that has pursued us ever since.


A glooming peace this morning brings, the sun for sorrow, will not show his head, go hence to have no more talk these sad things; Some shall be pardon’d and some punished: For never was there a story of more woe than this the story of sandwich and not a fucking sandwich

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No, he’s a Montagu. He’s the earl of sandwiches.


I think that he’s a Sandwich. Not a sandwich.


He may be the creator of the sandwich but that does not make him one. Just as god (supposedly) created humans and stil god is not a human.


I would argue he is the only sandwich.


But his title very clearly specifies that he is the 4th Earl of Sandwich.


The other three were destroyed in the Great Munching of '92.


Is Sandwich a sandwich?