[PODCAST Episode 267] 'Ghost Recon: Breakpoint' Puts You On Both Sides of Grotesque U.S. Military Might

In its early hours, Ghost Recon: Breakpoint introduces you to it's antagonist, Cole D. Walker. He's ex-military and one of your tasks is to figure out how he went from being your brother-in-arms to a PMC operative with shady morals. The game touts the idea that you'll feel hunted by the PMC, and it delivers on that feeling by giving the enemies many of the same tools you have as a part of the US military.

This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xwe4az/ghost-recon-breakpoint-puts-you-on-both-sides-of-grotesque-us-military-might

Love hearing Austin say it is time to wrap up the podcast but the podcast says its got 45 minutes left in the episode.


This episode is like a weird recursive nightmare where no matter what you do, you always end up back at Killer Workout.


What are the chances that Austin is thinking of this when he’s mentioning the comedy club incident.

To tie this back to earlier discussions, I drive past this casino on my commute to Seattle. No reasonable expectation for the train station that’s minutes from my house to be a viable option before I retire. Our planners in this region focus on more connections to the unaffordable places that already have transit (making it even more expensive), instead of expanding existing infrastructure to reach where people have to move to afford their mortgage or rent.


Can we take a moment to appreciate Cado’s “That’s how you get Jokers.” An excellent joke blown past without even a chuckle of acknowledgement…


Considering the crew’s complicated feelings on the NFL, I was wondering if they would have any interest in the rugby world cup going on in Japan.

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I am 100% stealing “topical apoliticism” to use in describing every big media product from now on.


The episode starts with my favorite thing: listening to the hosts watch a trailer and no link to it.
Are they just trolling me now? I think I’m done with this podcast.

I dunno if this is the trailer but it’s a trailer for the movie. https://youtu.be/5FMlel1b1uE

Killer Workout is roughly 70% women in leotards gyrating if that’s your thing.

Speaking of Green Day, have you listened to their new song?

It is VERY upsetting.

What the fuck happened to this band…

Just a brief correction: both Under A Killing Moon and The Pandora Directive had the same integrated hint system accessible at any time within the game.

Both games used a Sierra-style scoring system for solving puzzles and progressing the story. Getting hints, which were structured a bit like the Universal Hint System with tiered hints going from vague to specific, costs points to use. You could even save scum the system by saving, getting hints, then reloading your save and maintaining your score.

I love both those games, but I agree that Pandora is the better of the two. I got genuinely scared playing it. I also busted my copy by not properly inserting one of the six (6!) CDs improperly and scratching it majorly.

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So I guess everyone at Waypoint has a Panther fursona.

Except Rob who is just mad.

In my neck of the woods, while the more affordable areas to live have less access to mass transit, I’ve also noticed that the county-level governments in those reasons have an extremely dramatic resistance to expanding connections with mass transit in those areas, claiming that improving access to mass transit would lead to an influx of crime and homeless people.

(And, occasionally we’ve had mass transit instituting policies deliberately designed to prevent people from going grocery shopping on the bus)

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Another couple of things re: transit access, from somebody who wrote about city planning and transit for about 12 years:

  • Don’t forget the other thing in addition to “crime and homelessness” that often gets trotted out by suburban/county governments to block transit development: that it’s “socialism” and therefore eeeevil.

  • Because American zoning laws and development standards have been absolutely broken and screwed for decades due to the way we sold out every aspect of our cities for the car, once you get away from the central city areas a lot of American cities and suburbs are physically designed in a way that is actively hostile to good transit service even if it was implemented. Cul-de-sacs and feeder roads and subdivisions with one way in and out and strip malls/big box stores with gigantic front-loaded parking lots all make transit wildly less efficient vs. central-city areas with interconnected street grids and the like.


There’s a fear of those ‘eviiilll’ city elements creeping into the suburbs too from racist communities. We had a vote in Georgia a while back to extend our public transit in Atlanta, Marta, to Gwinnett county. Of course, we had while people who were scared of the black population of Atlanta coming to the county, and thus it was voted down.

People still talk shit about Gwinnett county because of it.


And one of the ways this manifests is making any existing expansion of mass transit infrastructure less convenient. For example, most of PDX’s mass transit system is set up as sort of spokes off of a hub, but with no outer wheel linking the edges together (with the exception of WES, which links part of Clackamas County to Washington county - but that only runs during rush hour, which actually isn’t helpful as a car replacement.)

I am watching some of the Breakpoint cutscenes. I do kind of like the take of, “Wow, Libertarians are ALL idiots, huh?” That seems to be floating around the dialogue.

I dunno this song kinda rocks? Sure it doesn’t sound like they used to and I can’t understand what he’s saying, but bands change and I like when they find new directions to go in.

It just sounds like any song you’d put behind a expensive car commercial to me.

I dunno, I hate it.

You’re 200000% right but speaking as someone in Bellevue, King County Metro fucking sucks no matter where you live.