We Discuss Square Enix, Ubisoft, and Sony's E3 Press Events


Patrick, Rob, Austin and Danielle gather after a rousing day of press events and appointments to talk about Square Enix, Ubisoft, and Sony's big press events. We go in on labor issues and Beyond Good and Evil 2, romance in Assassin's Creed: Odyssey, THAT KISS in The Last of Us Part II, the excitement over the Resident Evil 2 reveal, and hopes and fears about Death Stranding. Plus much, much more.

Discussed: Assassin's Creed Odyssey, Kingdom Hearts 3, The Division 2, The Crew 2, Beyond Good and Evil 2, Sable, Sinking City, Night Call, Overkill's The Walking Dead, Hitman 2, Sega games on PC, The Last of Us Part II, Watch Dogs (series), Ghosts of Tsushima, Control, Resident Evil 2, Death Stranding, Marvel's Spiderman.

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Mentioned early on with regards to Beyond Good and Evil 2’s labor sourcing, this sort of crowd sourced spec work is a really rough thing beyond just art. Amazon’s Mechanical Turk is a disgusting nightmare. It’s used as a ridiculously cheap way to create training data sets for machine learning (at least in my research field) where you can pay international workers for menial processing tasks that are then used to immediately nullify the need to pay for workers. AND the pay can be denied based on fairly simple quality complaints, giving the requester the end product regardless.

Plus, the language around it posing people as just computational tools.


Sometimes you gotta beat your dudes -Waypoint, 2018

Love it lol


Shout out to ice cream


So I’ve been thinking about the supposed longer JGL section - I think it’s possibly even worse.

You’re at a big conference aimed mainly at fans, talking about how they can contribute assets to a project. Then you put that single extra line into the pitch:

And if your designs appear in the game, you’ll get paid for it.

Yes, it brings in the link between work and getting paid but… that sure can easily sound like extremely advertising to try and push this to far more people than would otherwise even think about contributing.

Run the trailer for a game dev certification farm or a QA outsourcer that is 90% shots of people leading projects, footage of Ferraris in parking lots outside the office, etc. It sounds like there’s barely any money in this bit of the project so is talking up the chance of getting paid good or setting unrealistic expectations?


That ice cream truck driver almost drove them insane.
The music probably reeks of subliminal tracks. They just plant themselves by open doors and pour that shit in.