Ya'll ever stop and think about how much Carth from Kotor sucks?


#1

{Carth looks like he wants to tell you something}

“Carth, what’s up buddy?”

“I can’t tell you because I don’t trust you.”

“Ok. Well, keep me…”

“It all started when my father didn’t come to my baseball game…”


#2

I spend about as much time thinking about Carth as the game takes to give me enough characters that I never have to put him in my party again.


#3

This is what I spend all my Battle Meditations thinking about


#4

Nah man it’s not like I was feverishly slamming the “Murder Kaiden” option as soon as it appeared in Mass Effect for this reason or anything.


#5

Carth sucks, but Jolee is pretty much the best cranky dad ever, so I think it evens out.


#6

How about in KOTOR 2 when they are like, “Look who’s back!” and it’s like, really? Of all people this is the guy you get back in the booth for another scene?


#7

Carth is fine because it turns out he was the only party member besides Jolee who had a brain.

But he’s only just fine. He only stands out because half of the cast is so disposable. Only HK, Canderous, and Jolee are any good, and I barely count HK because his whole thing is just ripping off Bender but poorly. He’s better in 2 when Obsidian made him a character (shame most of it is hidden in the dark path).


#8

Yeah, but then you’re stuck with Ashley.


#9

Turns out Kaiden is pretty cool in 3. Ashley’s space racism just gets kind of buried and they hope you never remember it.


#10

That was the exact reason why I choose Kaiden in ME. Carth was such a pain in KotOR.


#11

Anyone who picked to sacrifice Kaiden just because he and Carth share a voice actor made a mistake, and I’ll take that opinion to the grave. Ashley might be my least favourite ME party member.

Also Carth is fine because most of KOTOR’s cast is just fine.


#12

But a pessimist is what an optimist calls a realist! /s

It’s uncanny how close Ashley hews to the people that embrace those kinds of ideologies and I’ve always wondered whether that was intentional or not


#13

Also, keeping Kaiden alive means I get more than one option as a Shepard who’s a gay dude, which is nice.


#14

Fair point. I should say that I have played those games so many times that Kaiden has done his fair share of surviving, and yeah, I agree that he’s pretty good in 3.


#15

You know who’s good though? KOTOR2’s “Not Carth” guy.


#16

Atton Rand?

Wonder what that guy’s all about.


#17

Guy counts cards in his head, to block mind reading, which is badass


#18

Carth is the guy two cubicles down who doesn’t understand that arguing isn’t flirting


#19

Atton Rand is about one thing and one thing only.

Pure. Pazaak.


#20

Hey come on. Old Carth has been through a lot. His whole family was killed when the Sith bombed…

Oh right yeah… he does have a habit of going on and on about it.

“That’s alright Carth, I understand, how about you go back to the Ebon Hawk and wait for us there. We three jedi will go exploring for a bit. Three lightsabres are better than two right? And I really want Bastilla to like me, I think a few more dialogues will really break down some walls. You Understand. Help a brother out?”